Time and time again, I hear from the religious that a life without belief in [a] god[s] is meaningless, or at least removes meaning from life.
I never had an issue with having [a] meaning[s] with my own life, as I see it, you make your own meanings and goals.
Now I wonder, what is/are this/these meaning[s] that believing in [a] god[s] give[s] these people, that a lack of belief in [a] god[s] cannot give you?
And are these meanings even worth it?
First I want to point out, you cannot force yourself to believe in something, I cannot turn on a “I believe in [a] god[s]” switch, by sheer willpower. So even if there are great meanings that would make belief in [a] god[s] worth it, you cannot force yourself to believe in the existence of these/this god[s].
I want to look at a typical Christian perspective and some of the arguments I hear from Christians about what they get from their belief (or relationship as they may call it too) in their god.
They want to serve their god, and share their belief with the people around them, in order for them to be “saved” too, but I ask you dear Christians who may read this, is that all?
Is the greater meaning of Christianity to be saved from sin, and to be a forever a child (never being allowed to be free and independent of the eternal parent)?
Servitude to this god of Christianity, how could that ever be considered a great or even a good meaning to adopt?
What is the point of having children, and of spreading Christianity then?
If the greatest meaning is to just serve and to be “saved”? If this is the meaning you want people to adopt?
You may excuse me, if I got it wrong, and I have somehow not seen what other great meaning there may be with Christianity.
But if I am right, and those are the great meanings of Christianity, why then have children? Why bring more “souls” to this world, and risk them not being “saved”, risk them not being Christians when growing up, not serving the god that may punish them?
Why even spreading Christianity, when you are asking people to volunteerily giving up their independency, their reason, their mental faculties, to be slaves of the Christian dogmas and doctrines, never being allowed to think outside the box, never to consider that there might be other options out there, than the theistic world view. Since that would be heretic, and would risk your immortal “soul”, as some believe.
Am I completely misrepresenting Christianity?
What is there to gain from Christianity, and other theistic beliefs that cannot be achieved by non-theistic beliefs and philosophies too?
Recently this idea about building an Atheist Temple in London has been circulating on the internet.
It originated from this article in the Guardian 26 January 2012, where philosopher and writer Alain de Botton said the temple would be a counter-weight to the more aggressive and destructive form of the new atheist movement, formed by Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens attacks on religion.
When I first read the story my initial reaction was, “WTF are you on about Mr. de Botton?”
What would we be doing at these temples? Yes, I am aware that this is almost the same as when people ask me, “What do you do in the Danish Atheist Society when you meet?”
I would say there is a clear difference. First of all most atheist groups, that define themselves as atheist, are primarily nonpartisan secular activist groups.
Which means we work to get a more secular society, and equal rights for religious and non-religious. We do not meet and talk about how little we believe in gods.
Secondly, why do people assume that ATHEISM is one thing, that it holds certain values, thoughts, and ideals. It does not the definition that the new atheist movement goes by, is that it is a non-belief in any deities (also singular form for those Christians that like to play word games). Most of these atheists also define themselves as agnostic-atheists.
I cannot recall who first said that organizing atheists is like herding cats, but I think this is very true, besides the fact you can find secularists amongst atheists, and humanists, when it comes to values, political and philosophical opinions, it is as diverse as any random group in society.
Thirdly to be fair it seems Alain de Botton was also misrepresented in the media, and he actually had no plans for building a temple of Atheism.
Which I found on the r/atheism subreddit on Reddit.
I have heard from some that they like this idea of an Atheist Temple, I would very much appreciate if you are one of those people, or know someone, please I would know WHY they think it would be a great idea.
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